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Ah, the frost line—nature’s way of reminding us that winter is not just a season but a force to be reckoned with! While you’ve got the ice-taming six inches over there, I’m dealing with a frost line of 2 feet 12 inches. So, yeah, when setting those deck posts, it’s basically a game of “how deep can you dig?”
I just hope your builder doesn’t plan to serve up any frozen cocktails while working on your project! Let’s just say, when it comes to building, I take that frost line seriously.
How about you? Ready to brave the cold, or are you just in it for the deck parties?
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Patricia Feager
Flower Mound, TX
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
546,475
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
I personally don't know much about the construction process. Thanks for sharing as we keep on learning here in the rain. As I clicked on your link, I am not sure that it affects mid Florida.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
967,899
Fred, it is 30 inches in our area. A lot of contractors go down to 36 inches to be extra safe.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
3,460,082
This is not something I have ever had to concern myself with. That is left to the contractors/builders, perhaps even the permitting department, Fred.
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
940,699
24" in Virginia. We usually dig down 24" x 16" - 24" wide, then pour 8" of concrete. In limestone district, we have make footers wider,Usually 30", with 1/2" rebar.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
1,653,597
What is this frost line you speak of?
America's Finest City wants to know. 😂
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Matthew Sturkie, CRS, ...
Apple Valley, CA
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Thomas J. Nelson, REAL...
La Jolla, CA
2,639,167
Apparently the average frost line in Montana is 61" but in my area, it's lower. I believe footings need to be three feet where I am (although I'm not 100% sure).
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
5,104,799
Hmm, I am thinking that we don't have a frost line where I live since it seems to always be warm, haha.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
779,771
We deal with frozen ground in our area all the time. My builder husband told me that typically the foundation of homes are down 22 inches to get below the freezing ground.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Candice A. Donofrio
Fort Mohave, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
2,887,775
Only people in this business know such things & those that they tell it too Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate ...This reminds me of weep screens which go below stucco, capture the water/moisture & send it AWAY from the house. Also, on a separate note, when installing fencing for dogs or wildlife, digging down deeper, inserting chicken wire is a must to prevent come & go plus natural predator instinct to dig to tunnel under. Thank you Fred
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Richard Alan Naggar
Riverside, CA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
2,138,274
The frost line in the Chicago area is around 42 inches. But there are areas in the northern U.S. that are much deeper.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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Carol Williams
Wenatchee, WA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Bob Crane
Stevens Point, WI
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
329,046
It's 4 feet in Massachusetts.
Learned that the hard way, when I had to dig holes for deck posts a few years back.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kris Collis, Associate...
East Stroudsburg, PA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
5,439,615
Sorry, Fred... but I have no clue. The subject has never come up when I've built my own homes or represented clients who have built their homes.
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
6,816,642
Generally 4 to 5 feet for any buildings that we build. (according to Alan May 's chart, maybe we should be going with 6 feet.)
Sometimes we see decks where they posts were not put in properly and they have a post or two pushed upwards, once this happens it is very difficult to fix.
If you put cement in around the posts it is important to taper the cement toward the post so that when the frost squeezes in from the sides it pushes down on the post rather than pushing the post upward.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
1,120,561
Depending on where in AZ, it's either 0 or more than 24!
I found this chart to determine it! LOL
It says ours is 10 but CA is 5 . . . since we are right across the River from CA, we're probably the same. AZ has up to 8000 ft elevation but ours is 500.
Year-round owners don't worry about such things, but seasonals should. We DO get freezing temps in the dead of winter, and winterizing for the season is a pretty damn good idea!
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
1,290,835
In MA, the Frost Line can be 30"-35" but can go as deep as 48" Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
5,609,009
Thanks Alan May for posting the depth here in the Chicago area. It has been years since I had to think about it but did remember is was over 3 feet. While living in Florida, not a concern.
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
472,936
Looks like we are 24"-33".
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
2,310,168
3 to 4 feet, good idea to styrofoam over water line from well when you convert a lake camp into a waterfront home.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Brian England
Gilbert, AZ
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
3,076,711
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate - Asking about the Frost Line is an excellent question. Soil here in TX moves and we don't have basements or crawl spaces. It can also vary depending on county. Not all soil is created equal.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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John Juarez
Fremont, CA
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Doug Dawes
Topsfield, MA
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Katina Hargrove 352-55...
Eustis, FL
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
3,986,267
Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Here in Maryland, it is 32". Thanks for bringing up the topic.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
5,593,751
Oh wow! Ours is a foot deep. I'm not sure how deep the pipes are buried in our current home though. With the hard freezes we've had this year, I'm assuming they're deep enough as we haven't had any frozen pipes.
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Bruce Walter
West Lafayette, IN
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
686,267
32" the requirement for Franklin County, which is central Ohio.
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
1,499,664
It is not a concern in the San Francisco Bay Area.
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
978,273
Frost line in the ground varies from year to year in central Nebraska. It is determined by moisture and temperatures.
This year we had a lot of extreme cold but not a lot of moisture. Extreme cold on top of a lot of snow and rain will drive it deeper in the early part of the year.
Some years we are over 48" and some years under 24". I am not sure what this years was.
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
945,531
I do believe it is something our builders and contractors consider but I don't know the code or rules for frost lines.
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
1,551,700
I've never heard of a frost line until today. We rarely see any kind of frost on our roofs.
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL