Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate, Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker (Fred Griffin Real Estate)

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Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate Brokered by Real - St. George, UT
So Utah Residential, Referral & Relocation REALTOR

What Z heck?!

Nov 11, 2021 10:48 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

My opinion really does not matter ... what matters are legal opinions, who has the deepest pockets, and who wins whatever dispute or battle is at war with the opposition.  


I play by the rules ... whatever they are, Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate 


Entertaining for sure! 

Nov 11, 2021 12:06 PM
Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Interesting times.  I wonder if that's the main reason they joined, to silence their detractors?

Nov 11, 2021 07:18 PM
Buzz Mackintosh
Mackintosh REALTORS - Frederick, MD
“Experience, reliable, leadership”

You have the right to remain silent !

Nov 11, 2021 06:47 PM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Agent Retired

refusing to work with them or their agents - Anti-Trust

producing points of view on their failed business practices currently - Freedom of Speech

I have never seen anyone on this platform say NOT to use Z. I have seen people/agents state how their business dealings did not work out with them. Loosing money was discussed.

Nov 11, 2021 12:20 PM
Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

If you review the laws of any federal, state, city code, regulation or rule, they are outdated, misapplied and unenforceable yet they remain on the books? So it is with this scenario. Do we have the time and the resources to debate these things at the risk of getting on tangents and meaningless pursuits? I know we settle everything with lawsuits however choose wisely

Nov 11, 2021 01:59 PM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, EXP - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

Could be a yes to both questions.


Nov 11, 2021 01:30 PM
Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty Evolution - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

Interesting! Just be careful not to hurt their

Nov 12, 2021 05:39 AM
Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Once again, easy to follow Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist. I agree! 

Nov 12, 2021 04:21 AM
Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD


Nov 11, 2021 04:58 PM
John Pusa
Berkshire Hathaway Home Services Crest - Glendale, CA
Your All Time Realtor With Exceptional Service

Hello Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate good to know that I should not criticize Zillow.

Nov 11, 2021 02:33 PM
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
Carolina Life RealEstate & Relocation 919-602-8489

I haven't heard anyone say they won't work with Z. I have heard people say they don't want Z to have access to their business data through dotloop and showing time. That has nothing to do with working with their brokerage. 

Nov 12, 2021 07:00 AM
Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

I always speak  of Z-devil with the greatest of admiration.
Some don't know who Z-devil is.
But when an organiztion made their identity (along side Inman) with flat fee and elimnating agents platform, their past history IS FAIR GAME. 
I think exposing their HYPOCRICY is fair game. This HYPOCRICY is the equivlent of 'black face' and should not be forgiven as current societial law has established.
So, are yoiu suggesting commenting on the HISTORICAL record is forbidden?  Were we not all impressed when Zdevil raided the top executives from NAR and stole all those NAR secrets and future marketing plans?
Zdevil, KW, Exp, NAR, and those BoneYard brokerages all merit behavioral changing exposure.

Nov 12, 2021 05:43 AM
Caroline Gerardo
Licensed in 20 states - Newport Beach, CA
C. G. Barbeau the Loan Lady nmls 324982

I'm not a NAR member so I can say with thousands of examples that Z is structured on a ponzi scam of advertising, their AI zadaestimates is wrong 70% of the time, the structure of billing lenders for agents ads to show at the top of the page is a violation of Regulation X and Reg Z,  they steal copyrighted material and ideas with abandon... to name a few. I don't own the stock. Rich Barton should stay home.

Nov 13, 2021 08:25 AM
Georgie Hunter R(S) 58089
Hawai'i Life Real Estate Brokers - Haiku, HI
Maui Real Estate sales and lifestyle info

I guess those who will badmouth other agents will still badmouth Z all they want.

Nov 12, 2021 07:37 PM