

4,758,822
Have Mr. Seller give you written permission to pre-market the property - just not in MLS. Spread the word in other ways than MLS.
If he wants it in MLS, nocando in NC or SC. You have to have a legal plat reference and a preliminary plat cannot be referenced.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Sam Shueh
San Jose, CA
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Kasey & John Boles
Boise, ID
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
5,581,941
you can't list a lot until it's an approved lot.... it's not approved yet....what's the seller's issue....
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Kathleen Daniels, Prob...
San Jose, CA
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Sharon Altier
Elmhurst, IL
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Greg Cremia
Nags Head, NC
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
3,210,157
You have your answers here. There is only so much we can do for sellers. We must follow the rules.
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Gita Bantwal
Warwick, PA
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,456,742
I'm going to have to defer to Barbara Todaro and our other new construction experts on this.
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Gita Bantwal
Warwick, PA
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
5,770,641
Ryan,
You have great answers, you will need to follow MLS rules. A
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
637,651
You need to follow your MLS rules, but our MLS will allow a master number with a bogus tax lot in order to get the property into MLS. Once the plat is approved and recorded, we can adjust with the "real" lot.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
2,719,445
Ask them for the number that goes in that spot. It may be the master number
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
1,408,683
Barbara Todaro has my answer.
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
2,212,917
Barbara Todaro has your answer.
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Barbara Todaro
Franklin, MA
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
3,408,104
Here in NH we can list a lot that as long as it states clearly, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF SUBDIVISION. Contracts are actually non binding, meaning the buyer can get out any time for any reason, up until the approval happens. Then it is binding. We put the tax map id of the total lot with lots of explanation. It is easier to sell an approved lot and i tell my sellers they can get more money once approved, nearly all will want to wait.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
2,883,719
I believe Barbara Todaro has answered the question.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,850,824
Barbara Todaro has the answer. You have to follow the MLS rules but looks like in checking further you got a good answer.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,530,800
Call the mls dept at your local board.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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David M. Dwares
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,709,415
Talk to your broker.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
4,394,429
You will need to contact your local mls if you are having a mls specific issue.
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Anthony Acosta - ALLAT...
Atlanta, GA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
429,032
The easy answer by the board is to say "sorry it's a required field." I endorse Richard Weeks suggestion to call the MLS department.
Also you may want to check out the MLS written rules yourself. I'm sure it is long, boring and confusing, but it may contain something that supports your position.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
1,204,474
Suggest advertise in on Loopnet or Costar.
I have a new home completed amost 3 month ago on the market. I had to bump another agent tell him to get his own APN not mine for MLS. His has been completed 6 month ago with no APN yet.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Pete Xavier
Pacific Palisades, CA
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
7,306,359
Wait for the tax IDs.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
544,792
Ryan Lay
In Arizona, the issue is MUCH deeper than satisfying the MLS. Is taking the listings worth losing your license?
The law in Arizona requires a Subdivision Public Report when splitting into six or more parcels. Violating subdivision law is a FELONY. The Arizona Department of Real Estate has jurisdiction over the entire state. The risk in getting ahead of the process is not worth the rewards.
In one specific instance, I refused to take listings worth a couple million dollars because my prospective Seller wanted to "fly under the radar" by doing illegal splits.
You may want to be careful in taking this kind of listing without doing your homework. I think almost all states, and certainly by the code of ethics, we are not permitted to work outside our area of expertise.
You need to talk to your Broker!
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Fred Griffin Florida R...
Tallahassee, FL
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Charlotte, NC
1,598,280
In Miami everything is possible. :)
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
3,987,776
What does your Utah broker say?
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
2,631,572
Edited answer:
Wait until you get the parcel numbers for the lots.
Otherwise, see an attorney, maybe money can be held in escrow or something for eager pre-sale buyers.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Charlotte, NC
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Valeria Mola
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
2,098,619
How can you sell a LOT w/out FINAL Approval ?
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Michael J. Perry
Lancaster, PA
2,069,947
In "our" World - they put listing on MLS with folio number with 00000000 and under new construction.
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
Sunny Isles Beach, FL
3,986,056
All you need to market is a lsting agreement, then market it through other channels
1,265,674
809,103
There are some great answers on here. Make sure to talk to your broker, your MLS, your real estate commission, and possibly an attorney.
13,516
Thank you to all who have commented. I am grateful to learn from others and see how things work in other areas. That is why I asked the question.
For the record, I have 10+ years experience as a Realtor, 10+ years experience as a Land Surveyor subdividing land for others, and 5+ years experience working for a State Land agency. I have also developed and sold many lots myself.
This is the first subdivision I have listed in the State of Utah. I was suprised by the flat "NO" response from the local MLS. I have not experienced this rule elsewhere. I also do not understand the logic behind the limitation. Builders are not required to have completed homes before advertising or signing contracts. EVERY transaction has risk. As Realtors, we cover those risks with contingencies and other safeguards to protect our clients and ourselves.
I have no intention of cheating the MLS system, but I am willing to go visit them and inquire further as to the "why" and see if its possible to change their rule. I don't like rules that burden most honest people, but most dishonest people just ignore anyway.
If someone can explain why pre-selling lots is unethical I would love to understand. It's only $10, but are movie trailers and pre-sold movie tickets also unethical? Star Wars movie trailers come out LONG before the movies are finished. Tickets are sold long before the movies can be viewed in a theater.
Again, my seller has preliminary plat approval, which is an agreement between him and the city that if he fulfills his clearly outlined obligations, they will grant him final approval for the subdivision. If he doesn't, they won't. A contract to purchase a lot is the same. If the developer doesn't fulfill his obligations, the EM is released to the buyer and the contract is terminated with no obligation to purchase. What is unethical about that?
4,433,865
5,964,382
4,799,925
4,785,696
So many issues here. The best you might do is take reservations "subject to..."! Many will never go to contract once approvals are obtained. That's life. Be prepared!
4,729,198
I can't comment on how it's done in Utah, as I have no idea how it works there.
3,615
Simple solution is market the original parcel as having the potential for subdivision. When the Seller gets the final approval then gets surveys, etc. to actually make the lots legal to sell you will have lost months of marketing exposure. Put together a package with as much information as you can gather on the property then go see every major builder in the area. If you do this right it will sell without any MLS promotion. If you do all the due diligence and even get excavation quotes, SDCs requirements, utility charges etc. you may even be able to sell this parcel through dual agency. If you leave a good impression on the Buyer you might get to list their finished houses. The MLS rules I totally understand as a fraud prevention, but you are seeing that as a barrier instead of a “huge” opportunity.
4,318,402
Ryan Lay - as long as you have the permission from (or agreement with) the seller, you should be able to start marketing!