Michael Scott, North Palm Beach County Real Estate (Seeking Employing Broker)

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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
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       My late neighbor did a "Lady Bird Deed" prior to her passing away.  This was done in February of 2018.   The house is in Tallahassee (Leon County); the attorney who drafted the deed is in adjoining Wakulla County.   

    Here is a link to said deed.  Perhaps it will shed light on your question.

   Quit Claim Deed with Reserved Enhanced Life Estate

 

 

     

Aug 01, 2018 07:38 AM
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Lesley Wilson-VanGoethem
Innovative Realty Solutions Group - Winter Springs, FL
Residential Real Estate Broker Associate

Contact a PROBATE attorney.. They can answer for you.. Ladybird deeds are common here, but this is a legal question .,.. ( we cant interpret )

Aug 01, 2018 05:27 AM
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Silvia Dukes PA, Broker Associate, CRS, CIPS, SRES
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Michael, best to ask a real estate attorney or at least the title company you are working with. 

Aug 01, 2018 04:40 AM
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Peter Mohylsky
PMI. Destin - Miramar Beach, FL

You need legal advice here.  Well beyond the scope of this forum.  Your profile says you are an attorney.  Did they cover this in school?

Aug 01, 2018 04:11 AM
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
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Since I had to Google the term "lady bird deed" (which sounds, I don't know, just so quaint), I'm not the one to give a knowledgable answer, but I do appreciate the opportunity to learn something new today. 

Aug 01, 2018 06:01 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
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This is probably too specific a question for this section. 

Aug 01, 2018 05:45 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Sounds like a great question for a Florida real estate attorney.

Aug 01, 2018 04:05 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

What you are asking is all Greek to me! Plus it sounds like a legal question, which should be posed to an attorney and not to real estate agents as we are not allowed to "practice law."

Aug 01, 2018 04:05 AM
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Joyce Marsh
Joyce Marsh Real Estate LLC - Ormond Beach, FL
Joyce Marsh Real Estate LLC - Coast & Luxury

This is a question for a Florida Real Estate Attorney. 

Aug 01, 2018 07:04 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I have no idea what a ladybird deed is.

Aug 01, 2018 06:52 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

either this is beyond my paygrade, or you're on crack.... pick your poison!

Aug 01, 2018 05:16 AM
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Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
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Sounds like a question for an attorney in Florida. 

I suggest you contact , Florida attorney

Aug 01, 2018 04:19 AM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Talk with your favorite real estate attorney.

Aug 01, 2018 06:16 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Try using common language or like everybody else says, consult a real estate attorney.

Aug 01, 2018 04:34 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
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Michael,

Sounds like you need an attorney, and I am not sure I understand. 

Aug 01, 2018 06:49 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

You need a competent real estate lawyer! Never heard of a Florida ladybird deed!

Aug 01, 2018 06:05 AM
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David M. Dwares
Title Professionals Corp. - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Title guy with a broker license

Michael, without seeing the exact language contained in the ladybird (enhanced life estate) deed, I could not give you a specific answer.  But basically yes, the transfer would extinguish the rights of the remaindermen.

Aug 01, 2018 05:57 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
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Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Ladybirds and Remaindermen - sounds like bands from the 60s!

Aug 01, 2018 09:06 AM
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Carol Williams
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I have no idea what that is.  Perhaps you could write a blog post about it when you get more information. 

Aug 01, 2018 07:05 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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You're going to need somebody well-versed in Florida real estate. We have those, but they probably are not going to answer you without representing you and specifics. Even then they may direct you to an attorney.

Aug 01, 2018 06:58 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

Good luck

Aug 01, 2018 05:29 AM
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
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A ladybird deed (aka life estate) can be defined as ownership for life literally. You can transfer the property but it's possession won't extend beyond the initial principal's demise. They are called life tenants sometimes. At death the remainderman gains full control to dispose or use the property in any way they want.  

Aug 01, 2018 10:28 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
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Ladybird.... as in Lindon Johnson's wife's nickname?  Check with a lawyer.

Aug 01, 2018 08:35 AM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Realty Evolution - Topsfield, MA - Georgetown, MA
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Ladybird deed??

Only Ladybird I've heard of was Ladybird Johnson

Aug 01, 2018 07:57 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

This is a legal question about which I know nothing. Sorry.

Aug 01, 2018 07:46 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
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I have no idea and it sounds like a legal matter to me.

Aug 01, 2018 07:11 AM
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

Way above my pay scale, sorry!

Aug 01, 2018 07:09 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
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say what ?

Aug 01, 2018 06:45 AM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Hi Michael, 

Fred Griffin has your answer. 

Aug 02, 2018 07:02 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
www.iCharlotteHomes.com | The Maxwell House Group | RE/MAX Executive | (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
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Looks like Fred Griffin has you covered!

Aug 01, 2018 08:15 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
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Check with an attorney in the state or check the court website for more information.  I am not familiar with Florida laws. 

Aug 01, 2018 08:02 AM
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Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Great answers are here. Good luck. 

Nov 06, 2018 07:05 AM
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Praful Thakkar
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Michael Scott - always a great answer from Fred Griffin. 

Aug 01, 2018 11:42 PM
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Bob Crane
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Sounds like something only a very good attny would know, or our friend Fred.

Aug 01, 2018 03:51 PM
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Caroline Gerardo
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If she is alive she can sell or mortgage or do whatever her heart desires and the remaindermen get nothing

Aug 01, 2018 11:52 AM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
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Real Estate licenses can't answer law degree questions.

Aug 01, 2018 08:04 AM
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

Agree with all answers. 

Nov 06, 2018 07:15 AM
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Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
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It seems Fred has a great resource for you to use but an attorney is a wise suggestion

Aug 06, 2018 03:57 PM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Have never hear of a ladybird deed.

Aug 05, 2018 01:41 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

?  Never heard of this

Aug 02, 2018 07:16 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
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It's called a life estate here and they can't "sell" it after that deed is signed except for selling what they own which is the right to occupy until their death.  So if I had a life estate and sold it when I died my named heir would then still own the house.

Aug 01, 2018 08:39 PM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
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?

Mexican law applies here. 

Aug 01, 2018 01:21 PM
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