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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

It all depends on the agent, the area, the market and the expectations of the seller. Result oriented will get the job done using all the tools available. 

My friend had a defibrilating pacemaker surgery. The pacemaker itself cost $100,000 though in theory the cost of the parts were under $50. That didn't include the hospital, surgical tech team, doctors and other supplies. The point is there is R&D and we agents have lots of R&D to get the job done. The seller isn't just paying for the parts.

Jul 21, 2018 08:49 PM
Rainmaker
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Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

And the answer is at the end of the following joke: 

A woman calls in a plumber when her washing machine breaks down. The plumber arrives, studies the machine, then produces a hammer and gives it a hefty whack.
The washing machine starts working again and the plumber presents a bill for $200.
‘Two hundred dollars?’ says the woman. ‘All you did was hit it with the hammer.’
So the plumber gives her an itemised bill: ‘Hitting washing machine with a hammer – $5. Knowing where to hit it – $195.’

Jul 22, 2018 04:04 AM
Rainmaker
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

I see that you've not sold a $30M home before. The truth is agent #3 will not receive 2.5% and likely has 100 times the amount that Agent 1 invests in marketing. Don't believe everything agent #2 tells you either. It's not as easy as it looks on paper. 

Jul 22, 2018 05:19 AM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Go ahead. Find a buyer for that 30 million dollar property. Negotiate a deal and get it to closing. Then you tell me if it was easier or harder than the $300,000 home. Hell yes, it's going to be harder. It's going to require more knowledge of the players in the game. It's an elite group that could afford a home that expensive--can you get to them? The guy that can is worth the 750k commission and the seller of the 30 million dollar home knows it.

It's not what you do. It's what you know. And who you know!

Anyone who deals with HNWIs and luxury homes, (go talk to the lovely Mrs. Seigel who knows some of the biggest), will tell you that they will not just work with anyone. You have to be connected, respected, and you have to show results.

This is not a put in MLS, send out postcards, and answer web inquiries thing.

It's a great question though.

NAR recently reported that 29% of its members currently have less than 2 years in the business, I just saw Saul Klein post about it. That's a lot of baby agents. This is something that wouldn't make sense to somebody that didn't understand. There's a lot to learn for all of us in this business.

Jul 22, 2018 03:49 AM
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Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

Simple answer, no.  They aren't working that much harder.  The more expensive a property, the longer the marketing time and more expensive the marketing.  I would think a large retainer fee and a smaller commission percentage would work well, but it's not my market.  My average sales price is about $400,000.  I sold one close to a $1Million once, and the work was a bit more in marketing, but nothing outrageous.

Jul 21, 2018 08:54 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

 

 

   I am paid a commission for finding a ready, willing, and able buyer.  The amount of "work" involved is irrespective.  

   Here is the Listing Contract that I have with a Seller:

 

 

 

Jul 21, 2018 08:46 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

This just makes me laugh as you are an outsider not involved in real estate.

1st off, try to find that 30M buyer as someone else suggested. Where to find one? Standing in front of the library with their checkbook?

Jul 22, 2018 05:37 AM
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Greg Cremia
Shore Realty of the Outer Banks - Nags Head, NC

Someone who owns a $30m home does not want an agent to sell their home who lives in the low income end of town. The whole birds of a feather thing.


Other than that i don't understand why we should justify our earnings. We get what the public is willing to pay just like the owner of the $30m home is hoping to do.

Jul 22, 2018 04:00 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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They work harder, though many will claim that they spend just as much time on the lower priced listings, most will spend much more on those elite listings.

  • Better staging
  • Better photography
  • Better adds
  • More hand holding

In our market the first senario you pose is toward the top of the market, the others are just something to dream about.

Jul 21, 2018 08:41 PM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

The work involved in marketing a $30 Million dollar property could very well deserve a commission of that magnitude.

Jul 22, 2018 06:04 AM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

every transaction is different, and the degree of difficulty is not related to the price.... it's most often a direct reflection of "the people" we're dealing with... I've had high end transactions that went smoothly and very low end that were high maintenance (people and property!)....  

if you're focused on your income, move to Beverly Hill  .... oh, wait, you don't just secure listings because you live there!!! 

Jul 22, 2018 05:16 AM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Not necessarily, on the 30 million, it may take longer to sell as the higher the price the smaller the pool of buyers.  A

Jul 21, 2018 09:07 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

LOL you are comparing Lexus to Lambo's to Mercedes-Benz Maybach Exelero-all nice to own, all very different to afford and care for.

Every agent (business) is different. So yes, so do work 10X harder-I know I do than most.

Also you are spending serious upfront marketing dollars in the luxury market that you are not below $1,500,000 in CA. So overhead goes up exponentially in relation to the level of home you are selling.

Also, the carrying costs are 10X longer in luxury than non-luxury. In your example, home one sold in 1 week, home two in 90-180 days and home three in 18 months-3 years.

Jul 22, 2018 09:38 AM
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Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Work?  Not sure I totally understand what you mean by that...  If you mean the risk of NOT getting paid is 10x greater, then we are on to something.  What is the chance of us recouping the monies spent on marketing the home?  The risk is all on the agent.  It may not sell, and the agent has perhaps spent enourmous sums to try to get the house sold, as well as an enourmous amount of time.  In essence, they could work for free.  At $30M, the air gets pretty thin up there at that price point.

Jul 22, 2018 07:38 AM
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Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
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As you go up in the price of the property... longer listing times are common... and larger marketing budgets come into play in order to attract a buyer.

I have a colleague of mine who had a ten-million dollar listing a few years back... and she spent over $10,000 in marketing over the length of the listing.  In addition, she held a broker's open house with catering and a string quartet on the patio by the pool (no idea what that cost her)... and in the end... the property did not sell!

The difficulty of selling a $30,000,000 property, over a $3,000,000 property increases exponentially.

Jul 22, 2018 06:51 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Apples and oranges, perhaps.  More information is needed. 

Jul 22, 2018 06:02 AM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Does each respective agent work 10 times harder?

Did Renoir or Dali work 10 times harder than Merle Twitcher did sweating through the Florida afternoon sun for weeks painting a 25' x 60' mural?

I would share the false assumptions made in your question but am not aware if you have the education, experience or capable of using such information responsibly. A profile helps in that regard.

Jul 22, 2018 05:18 AM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

You've received a lot of good answers here. And it's not necessarily a question of working "harder" but for a longer period of time with many more expensive marketing costs associated with a very expensive property.

Jul 22, 2018 05:08 AM
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

Lets take  a single family home from 300k to 3 million as it is easier to compare. Each listing would receive my top marketing. The 3 million doolar home would get an increase in marketing material, would tak emore time to sell, longer ads, more expensive to market. The agent should be using that increase in potential commission to increase marketing. NOW it also includes time behind the scenes such as dealing with the seller, how easy it will be to sell, how much time is required to sell and to close. There is more to selling a home than finding a buyer, the time to close is much more than time it takes to fond a buyer in some markets. We do not have 30 million dollar properties, so i can not relate 

Jul 22, 2018 04:11 AM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

The amount of work and time needed to market and sell the three properties is vastly different.  I have all three in my market (range is in the 400,000s to 187 million).  The 300k will likely be sold inside of a month in multiple offers and appeals to the widest range of buyers.  The 3 million dollar home will take several months to sell and you need a family that earns a couple hundred thousand per year to afford it.  Out here, the 3-10 million range is mostly executives for larger companies, Pam Anderson, Tommy Lee, Heather Locklear, Brittney Spears... yes they all have homes out here.

 

The 30m and up, that home may take 1-2 years to sell.  It requires a MUCH higher level of advertising and national exposure.  The 187m home has been on every local news channel and several national and international ones.  You need the right kind of magazines to advertise it in (Opera playbills, Yachting, CEO, etc.).  The types of people that live in those out here are the head of UCLA, ultra-successful money mangers, older money, and celebriteis such as Cher, Tom Selleck, Sophia Loren, etc.  And I've actually been to their homes (well, not Cher's that one I've only driven by).

 

That 750k commission on the 30m home, may be the only home that agent sells all year or more, where as the agent selling 300k homes can sell dozens or hundreds in a year.

Jul 22, 2018 10:06 AM
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Jon K. Judd
Keller Williams Realty - Central Delaware - Dover, DE
GRI, e-PRO, SFR, Delaware Homes

You take your car to be serviced.  The pricing manual the service centers use say the job should take 3 hrs at $$$$.  Your service center completes the job in 1 hr yet your bill is for the 3 hrs.

Reference to the agents, you could have an agent that has to work 10x harder... though you could have an agent who already has a cash client in their back pocket ready to immediately jump on the $30,000,000 property.

Do all agents who deal with a $300,000 property put in exactly the same amount of work... not likely.  The inexperienced agent may put in much more work than the more experienced agent. For that matter it could end up being the complete oposite.

Jul 22, 2018 09:27 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

There are all sorts of differences in terms of the knowledge and experience needed, the costs and time needed for appropriate marketing, being able to find the right buyers and so much more during the transaction.

Jul 22, 2018 08:39 AM
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Your question implies that the three agents will all be doing the same thing, spending the same money on marketing, have the same circle of potential buyer, have the same level of experience and knowledge, etc.

Of course, those assumptions would be wrong.

Jul 22, 2018 08:00 AM
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Commissions are negotiable. Some offer discounts and some do not. At one point in time I offered a "Cadillac" service for a higher fee along with a standard fee. Most took the standard fee which was acceptable to me. Some took the "Cadillac" fee and I earned every penny!

Jul 22, 2018 07:09 AM
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Michael J. Perry
KW Elite - Lancaster, PA
Lancaster, PA Relo Specialist

The same argument can be made at almost any Price Point ?

Jul 22, 2018 06:51 AM
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

Check the DOM for those 3 price points and get back with me.

Jul 22, 2018 06:34 AM
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Derrick Guevremont
Counselor Realty of Rochester - Rochester, MN
Rochester MN Homes for Sale

Often the lower priced homes can be more time consuming for me and therefore more “work.” Flaking paint on a sale with an FHA loan is a common example on an older home that needs some maintenance. Holdbacks for painting that cannot be done in the winter in our climate. We can still get the sale to close but it’s just going to take a little more time and energy. More expensive homes are usually in better condition.

Jul 21, 2018 11:10 PM
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Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street, Suite #5, Topsfield, MA - Topsfield, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

They are all different sales. Some are more labor intensive than others. 

Jul 21, 2018 09:55 PM
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John Pusa
Glendale, CA

It depends!  Many good responses. 

Jul 21, 2018 09:49 PM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

Candice A. Donofrio hit the nail on the head. 
It's not what you do. It's what you know. And who you know! 

Then, taking that knowledge to get it done. 

Jul 22, 2018 10:57 AM
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

The second and third agent will have to swallow a discounted fee or flat fee. The number 1 volumn in America is a discounted broker. Same on buyer's side. You must be a new realtor or 29% NAR membership.

Jul 22, 2018 09:33 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Whatever the parties agree to. I echo Debbie Reynolds comment.  There is far more to what agents bring to the table than what may appear on the surface just looking at the numbers.  

Jul 22, 2018 08:39 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

We handle all our listings the same way - from $200K to $10.3 million thus far...

Jul 22, 2018 07:11 AM
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Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

In my market, there are fewer buyers in the million dollar range so listing a million dollar property requires a lot more marketing, showings, and hand holding. The cost of marketing, photography expenses, open houses etc, are also higher for higher end listings.

Jul 22, 2018 07:02 AM
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Gloria Valvasori, Accredited Senior Agent
BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS REAL ESTATE SIGNATURE SERVICE - Mississauga, ON
REAL Experience | REAL Commitment | REAL Results!

Debbie Reynolds was spot on!  I agree with her.

Jul 22, 2018 06:53 AM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

This has always been the elephant in the room. Pay is due but how much?

Jul 22, 2018 05:38 AM
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Andy Brown-Climer School of Real Estate
The Climer School of Real Estate - Orlando, FL
The Best Real Estate School in Florida

Interesting question to pose

Jul 22, 2018 11:14 AM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

You should hot diswcuss commissions but you probably aren't a REALTOR®.

Jul 22, 2018 10:14 AM
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Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Since you didn't specify which type of real estate agent you wanted to toss shade at, let's start with the listing agent.

It took YEARS for the listing agents to obtain the ability to list that top dollar property.  YEARS.  And you're assuming that their listing contract is at 2.5%  It may not be.  Might be 1%, might be 3% . . . 

So the premise of "10x's harder" is not germane.  

The $300K listing might have a 7% listing contract, and sell in one day, multiple-offers, and actual sales price $375K, no concessions.

If the 3 agents are "buyers agents" -- the same could be said.  It took YEARS to work with Buyers in the top dollar price range.

These price ranges are represented by agents who specialize in those price-points.  Those properties are not equal, to begin with an all require a very specific, unique and experienced skill set.

The work involved is lost on anonymous posters who have no idea how this industry works.

 

 

Aug 20, 2018 01:30 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Agent #1 is underpaid!

Seriously, I'm going with Debbie Reynolds' answer!

Jul 22, 2018 06:42 PM
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

Ha ha ha. 

Same effort to get it done and close. 

Just the LUCK. 

Jul 22, 2018 05:10 PM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Charge less if your services are worth less than the agree commission.

Jul 22, 2018 12:23 PM
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Tammy Lankford,
Lane Realty Eatonton, GA Lake Sinclair, Milledgeville, 706-485-9668 - Eatonton, GA
Broker GA Lake Sinclair/Eatonton/Milledgeville

It's not the same market/ business or cost of living in those three markets.  It's like comparing apples and oranges.

Jul 22, 2018 11:59 AM
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Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
305-607-0709 SIB Realty Condos for Sale and Rent

Great answers are here. Good luck. 

Nov 06, 2018 07:05 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

Every buyer has different needs, and also different time spent on their transaction.

Jul 25, 2018 07:21 AM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

Higher ticket items can also have higher costs for the agent and higher level of responsibility

Jul 24, 2018 06:38 PM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

No

Jul 23, 2018 03:40 PM
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Jennifer Mackay
Counts Real Estate Group, Inc. - Panama City, FL
Your Bay County Florida Realtor 850.774.6582

I agree with Dave Halpern -  I know how to sell fast and market my listings effectively - others in the area... not so much ;)

Jul 23, 2018 07:37 AM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

The expectations differ at higher price level. Believe me, it is worth every penny we earn for higher priced homes - beginning with maintaining and building the relationship.

Jul 22, 2018 10:30 PM