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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

I have never heard of this either.  I'd suggest contacting the state association's legal hotline.

Jul 21, 2018 10:02 AM
Rainmaker
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

I'm confuzzled. The BUYER is paying a fee TO SEE?
If I was a buyer, I would skip that property.**
Also . . . the agent is already collecting the FULL pop if they have the listing and the buyer is unrep.
So they're trying to get more on top of all.
And that % is % of WHAT? The asking price or the deal price?
I have to laugh, though.
Buyers need their own agent more than they know.
Also, does seller know this? I'd be 50 shades of pissed off that my broker was extorting from buyers. For reasons already stated.**

Jul 21, 2018 09:41 AM
Rainmaker
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

If that agent can get it paid, more power to her. I don't know that I would charge to show a client's home, but I would charge 1% to be involved in the transaction... there's lots to do once a contract is signed that the lawyer won't do that takes up a lot of time. Time is money. And if her clients do not want to show with seeing financial capability upfront, she's just following their instructions.

Jul 21, 2018 11:08 AM
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Carol Williams
Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals. - Wenatchee, WA
Retired Agent / Broker / Prop. Mgr, Wenatchee, WA

It doesn't sound like the listing agent is acting in the best interest of the seller (their client).  This could be determined to violate their fiduciary duties.

Jul 21, 2018 10:08 AM
Rainmaker
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I've never heard of that happening..... keep it clean and get them a buyer agent to represent them.... just saying! this is what happens when buyers do not have a buyer agent to guide them.... 

Jul 21, 2018 09:49 AM
Rainmaker
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Eve Alexander
Buyers Broker of Florida - Tampa, FL
Exclusively Representing ONLY Tampa Home Buyers

Sounds like a total idiot...

I am willing to bet the seller is not aware of how badly the LA is trying to line his pockets at the expense of not selling the property.

Eve

Jul 21, 2018 09:19 AM
Rainer
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Christine Kankowski North SD and Temecula
House Match Inc - Poway, CA
Excellent Sales and Property Management

I've never seen this, However, in CA, the default listing contracts states a percentage (5-6%) to the listing agent, who may share that with another agent if buyers are represented.  IF they are not represented, the listing agent gets it all, even if they are not representing the buyer. So there is no need to charge buyers any extra. 

Jul 21, 2018 09:06 AM
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Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

So, if you have a house listed for $300,000... you want a $3,000 fee from unrepresented buyers just to show the property??

I don't know if it's ethical, but it sure ain't normal nor professional. 

It is, however, a good way to make sure that no unrepresented buyers view the property, and I doubt that's okay with your seller.

Jul 21, 2018 08:40 AM
Rainmaker
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Pasadena And Southern California 818.516.4393

Unusual. 

Jul 21, 2018 11:19 AM
Rainmaker
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Olga Simoncelli
Veritas Prime, LLC dba Veritas Prime Real Estate - New Fairfield, CT
CONSULTANT, Real Estate Services & Risk Management

If the buyer has an agent, the fee to the agent would be covered by the co-broke agreement if the showing results in a sale. I don't know your local law, but it seems rather unethical for the LISTING agent to charge buyers to show their listing when they are already getting paid ?... 

Jul 21, 2018 11:14 AM
Rainmaker
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Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

What Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041 said.

The buyer is not using an agent. An attorney is writing the offer and I believe attorneys in VA get paid the coop commission, so basically the attorney is filling out the contract, collecting the commission and that is it.

Have never run across it so my memory is a little fuzzy, but if that is the case, guess who gets paid but does not show up fot home inspections, or for walk throughs or for any myriad things buyers for which access to the house?

How does the seller feel?  That is the 64 dollar question, of course, but the agent is basically trying to push the buyers to using an agent so they, the LA, won’t get stuck doing much of the running around on behalf of the buyer. 

If the agent is a local member of the re board and has sentrilock access, then okay, then, but if not, I am not as upset with the LA as most seem to be.  Again, may not be my path but frankly, we have a robust market where I am and it is not always necessary to bend over backwards doing someone else’s job for them.

 

Jul 21, 2018 03:53 PM
Rainmaker
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Kevin J. May
Florida Supreme Realty - Hobe Sound, FL
Serving the Treasure & Paradise Coasts of Florida

Great concept but it would not fly with my Sellers or Buyers for that matter.

Jul 21, 2018 11:53 AM
Rainmaker
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

Wow, what a jackass. Let the buyer decide if they want to pay the 1% fee. I think the LA is blowing these people off as he's definately hoping they will not take the offer.

That is not acting in the sellers interests. Someone should call the legal hotline on this one.

 

Jul 21, 2018 11:29 AM
Rainmaker
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Diana Dahlberg
1 Month Realty - Pleasant Prairie, WI
Real Estate in Kenosha, WI since 1994 262-308-3563

What?  Seriously?  Sounds suspicious to me.  

Jul 21, 2018 10:33 AM
Rainmaker
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Jeff Pearl
RE/MAX Distinctive / LIC in VA - Lovettsville, VA
Full Service Full Time Realtor

Save the email and and any communication from that agent. The agents broker, the board, and the sellers might be interested in seeing it if it turns out that agent is full of bs, which is what it sounds like.

Jul 21, 2018 10:21 AM
Rainmaker
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

Certainly not a normal situation.

Jul 21, 2018 09:58 AM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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I admire this agent for trying to get paid well, but they could use a little grammar coaching.

Jul 21, 2018 06:17 PM
Rainmaker
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

From my point of view that is not what the listing agent is saying.

What the listing agent is saying is "HIRE A REALTOR to represent you. Things will work much better that way."

So the buyer WANTS to fly in defiance of convention, and that could prove expensive. It is the buyers call to make. The listing agent is simply trying to direct the buyer in a direction of less pain and better representation.

This actually is a good response for those agents who are licensed in states where closing are NOT managed by attorneys.

Jul 21, 2018 02:13 PM
Rainmaker
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

I would like to hear from a savvy Virginia agent like Susan Haughton .  This sounds strange to me!

Jul 21, 2018 12:33 PM
Rainmaker
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

CA standing by for this answer out of curiosity.

Jul 21, 2018 11:44 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
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That's a great way to let a rogue buyer know that it's SMART to have their OWN representation!

As for charging a fee - a lot of agents charge renters a fee for showing homes here. I can't say whether it's legal or illegal though in your state. I would have to seek legal counsel on this topic. 

However, I would question whether the sellers' agent is doing the right thing when it comes to his/her fiduciary to the seller. That's really the question for me. Does the seller know that the agent is doing this?

Jul 21, 2018 07:05 PM
Rainmaker
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTAcondos.com
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

Very unusual, parked and reading. 

Jul 21, 2018 05:12 PM
Rainmaker
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John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

The listing agent appears to me to be violating their fiduciary duty to the seller by trying to line their pocket with an exorbitant “showing fee” in order to forestall having to show the house to a qualified buyer… in addition to the full commission the listing agent would want to retain in the case of an unrepresented buyer buying the house.

Who is paying the attorney? Can’t pay a commission to someone who is not licensed to sell real estate.

Jul 21, 2018 04:57 PM
Rainmaker
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Scott Godzyk
Godzyk Real Estate Services - Manchester, NH
One of the Manchester NH's area Leading Agents

That is unheard of in NH. As a listing agent it is my job to sell my listing and that is showing buyers with a buyer agent or without. I do not charge an extra fee to the buyer as the seller is already paying me to sell the home. 

Jul 21, 2018 03:32 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  What is this house?  Buckingham Palace?  The Taj Majal?

  Buyer should trash that letter, forget this place, and move on.

Jul 21, 2018 02:52 PM
Rainmaker
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA nailed this one!

Jul 22, 2018 07:18 AM
Rainmaker
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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Candice A. Donofrio asked all the right questions! Someone is greedy or has a clause in the listing agreement reducing the commission if the buyer is unrepresented. Very strange!

Jul 22, 2018 06:51 AM
Rainmaker
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Greg Cremia
Shore Realty of the Outer Banks - Nags Head, NC

Since you only provided a quote from the agents email and not the whole email i can not make a valid observation. In the agents defense, there will be additional costs associated with dealing with an attorney written contract as compared to dealing with the state provided, fill in the blank sales contract. Typically, your attorney will write the contract with everthing in your favor and detrimental to the seller which will require the seller to have an attorney do the same. This can be very expensive for the seller who will be looking to their agent to share that cost.

There would be a very high likely hood that i would recommend my seller reject your offer just based on the attorney written contract as it makes you appear to be a litigious personality. Not to be mean but you are not the only buyer out there.

Jul 22, 2018 04:29 AM
Rainmaker
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Burlington, MA
Metro Boston Homes For Sale

Sean Adams - good answer from Candice A. Donofrio 

Jul 21, 2018 11:10 PM
Rainmaker
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

Commissions are negotiable and so are business models. The consumer has the choice to go elsewhere.

Jul 21, 2018 08:59 PM
Rainmaker
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

We have not seen this in Denver.

Jul 25, 2018 07:27 AM
Rainmaker
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

In my area we just sign them as a dual agent client and and keep both sides

Jul 24, 2018 06:25 PM
Rainmaker
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Never heard of that before.

 

Jul 23, 2018 12:20 PM
Rainmaker
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I'm in CA and would be surprised to hear anyone is doing it since we have so many agents.... competition is brutal. Yet, I know few very posh agents who have a waiting list, so... those ''stars'' might charge an extra fee, but never for just showing houses.

Jul 22, 2018 10:58 PM
Rainmaker
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

How much was that house?

Jul 22, 2018 05:22 PM
Rainmaker
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Yes Virginia, there is a Sant5a Claus.

Jul 22, 2018 10:18 AM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

I don't know anything about Virginia however on the surface this seems like a bait and switch ... shady at best.

Jul 22, 2018 08:28 AM
Rainmaker
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Richard Weeks
Dallas, TX
REALTOR®, Broker

The commission stated in mls is what the seller will pay.

Jul 22, 2018 06:44 AM
Rainmaker
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I've never heard of anything like this.  I don't know the laws in Virginia, but I'm going to guess that an agent can charge whatever they want.

Jul 22, 2018 05:57 AM
Rainmaker
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Sam Shueh
(408) 425-1601 - San Jose, CA
mba, cdpe, reopro, pe

??

Jul 21, 2018 06:35 PM