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Wayne Martin
Wayne M Martin - Chicago, IL
Real Estate Broker - Retired

Most of the litigation involving FSBO's are likely to occur in small claims court or circuit courts. Very hard to generalize. Different areas of Florida have ruled differently on similar facts.

Most E&O claims are for smaller amounts of money. The big cases make headlines!

Oct 26, 2017 02:07 PM
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Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

I do remember seeing that ages ago but don't know the source. As Corinne says, how could you get it? Transfers vs litigation? It would be tough to process it.

Do I think someone 'winged it'? You bet.

Oct 26, 2017 12:00 PM
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Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
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So many court houses throughout the land, and since these do not fall under any E&O coverage there probably are not any accurate stats on this.

Oct 26, 2017 05:02 PM
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Ryan Huggins - Thousand Oaks, CA
https://HugginsHomes.com - Thousand Oaks, CA
Residential Real Estate and Investment Properties

Sorry, I don't and short of combing through the transaction records for the county (all transactions minus auctions and real estate sales) and then comb through the court filings looking for FSBO stuff... I just don't have the time or really see the benefit.

Oct 26, 2017 01:14 PM
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Lynnea Miller
Bend Premier Real Estate - Bend, OR
Premier Real Estate Service in Central Oregon

I have not heard of this stat, Mel Ahrens, MBA, Kelly Right Real Estate . However, I have heard that 1 out of 5 real estate agents will be sued sometime in their career and that 70% of these suits happen to agents with 7 plus years of experience. 

Oct 26, 2017 11:50 AM
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Evelina Tsigelnitskaya
SIB Realty - Sunny Isles Beach, FL

Great answers here

Sep 23, 2018 03:10 PM
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Valeria Mola
SIB Realty - Miami, Sunny Isles Beach - Sunny Isles Beach, FL
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Nope

Sep 23, 2018 03:09 PM
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Anthony Acosta - ALLATLANTACONDOS.COM
Harry Norman, REALTORS® - Atlanta, GA
Associate Broker

I do not Mel Ahrens, MBA, Kelly Right Real Estate 

Oct 26, 2017 04:01 PM
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Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
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I'd be super interested in those stats if you ever do get a hold of them. I suspect that what Wayne said is correct and most of those are settled in small claims court.

Oct 26, 2017 02:47 PM
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Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

I've never heard anyone have any conversation about this topic!

Oct 26, 2017 01:15 PM
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Roy Kelley
Retired - Gaithersburg, MD

I do hot have the figures.

Oct 26, 2017 01:12 PM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
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As Wayne Martin said, FSBO litigation occurs in the courts and we are not privy to that information (easily, at least).

I recently read an article (I think it was either in Time or BiggerPockets) that spoke to this very issue. The reason that most FSBOs are sued is because there are no agents to either 'prevent' the incidents and we have E&O to cover issues, should they arise.  

Oct 26, 2017 06:55 PM
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Debbie Reynolds, C21 Platinum Properties
Platinum Properties- (931)771-9070 - Clarksville, TN
The Dedicated Clarksville TN Realtor-(931)320-6730

I think that number is really high. I have worked in the business for 37 years and know of only one lawsuit against the firms I worked for.

Oct 26, 2017 06:23 PM
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Thomas J. Nelson, REALTOR ® e-Pro CRS RCS-D Vets
Big Block Realty 858.232.8722 - La Jolla, CA
CEO of Vision Drive Realty - Coastal San Diego

not sure how to source that, but great question!

Oct 26, 2017 06:03 PM
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Peter Mohylsky 850-517-7098
PMI. Destin - Miramar Beach, FL
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Interesting post. I appreciate you sharing this question and the following answers.  

Oct 26, 2017 12:53 PM
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Nina Hollander, Broker
Coldwell Banker Realty - Charlotte, NC
Your Greater Charlotte Realtor

This is the first I've even heard this issue raised.

Oct 26, 2017 12:23 PM
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Inna Ivchenko
Barcode Properties - Encino, CA
Realtor® • GRI • HAFA • PSC Calabasas CA

I never heard of such....It does not mean they have low risk and low rate of lawsuits. Someone needs to be paid to do this kind of research and who would that be? 

Sep 03, 2018 11:28 PM
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Praful Thakkar
LAER Realty Partners - Andover, MA
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I wish I had!

Jul 09, 2018 10:47 PM
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Dave Martin (703) 585-4687
Fairfax Realty - Fairfax, VA
Making Realty Dreams a Reality #WeWillGetYouHome

That's a great question I have looked for similar data I will be watching to see if anyone has found them 

Dec 16, 2017 06:25 AM
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Joan Cox
House to Home, Inc. - Denver Real Estate - 720-231-6373 - Denver, CO
Denver Real Estate - Selling One Home at a Time

I have not tried tracking this info, so doing some reading of the comments.

Oct 30, 2017 07:53 AM
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Will Hamm
Hamm Homes - Aurora, CO
"Where There's a Will, There's a Way!"

Good question, but not up on it.

 

Oct 29, 2017 08:51 AM
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Michael Jacobs
Pasadena, CA
Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393

Good question, Mel but I'm not sure how this could truly be substantiated.  If you find out...let us know.  

Oct 27, 2017 06:52 PM
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Annette Lawrence , Palm Harbor, FL 727-420-4041
ReMax Realtec Group - Palm Harbor, FL
Making FLORIDA Real Estate EZ

Now this would be incredible information to have for the local area.

I suggest you start planning a project for a intern.

This is the time of year parents are reviewing schools for next years session. Your local newspaper or school administrator will be able to find those schools with a law specialty. That's where you can start.

OR chat with the clerk of courts and find out if that information can be found online. Then hire a real programmer who can scrape data from across the country and you've got something to ride for passive income.

A similar project was completed regarding how insurance companies respond when a claim is made.  How often do they reject claim. How much do they raise rates, if at all, on first/second/third claim, etc. How long until they pay. And on and on.

Oct 27, 2017 12:53 PM
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Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Estate Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate

I do not believe there is a cost and time efficient way to actually track and record that data.  It is essentially useless data in any event. 

Oct 27, 2017 08:32 AM
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Gabe Sanders
Real Estate of Florida specializing in Martin County Residential Homes, Condos and Land Sales - Stuart, FL
Stuart Florida Real Estate

I don't, sorry.

Oct 27, 2017 06:08 AM
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Nathan Gesner
American West Realty and Management - Cody, WY
Broker / Property Manager

I've never seen statistics on this but wish they were available.

Oct 27, 2017 05:28 AM
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Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

Barbara Todaro nailed this one!

Oct 27, 2017 04:39 AM
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Gita Bantwal
RE/MAX Centre Realtors - Warwick, PA
REALTOR,ABR,CRS,SRES,GRI - Bucks County & Philadel

I do not.

Oct 27, 2017 04:02 AM
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Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude

Interesting question but I have no idea. The immediate thought was that many issues are through the small claims court. Not sure how you woudl get that info. What are you looking for, the number and types of litigation cases?

Oct 26, 2017 08:37 PM
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William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.

I am seeing more FSBO's having issues because they do not the laws of disclosure

Oct 26, 2017 06:58 PM
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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

  I don't know how you could find that information without reviewing local Clerk of Court records.

Oct 26, 2017 06:11 PM
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Richie Alan Naggar
people first...then business Ran Right Realty - Riverside, CA
agent & author

What a good question. Let's see some answers Mel

Oct 26, 2017 05:44 PM
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Ron and Alexandra Seigel
Napa Consultants - Carpinteria, CA
Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy

Mel,

Perhaps a real estate attorney could be a great source?

Oct 26, 2017 03:29 PM
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Joe Pryor
The Virtual Real Estate Team - Oklahoma City, OK
REALTOR® - Oklahoma Investment Properties

Never seen any.

Oct 26, 2017 03:23 PM