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Conrad Allen, Webster, Ma, Realtor (Re/Max Professional Associates)

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Like Candice A. Donofrio , I would prefer to know the median income.  Averages can be very skewed.  Thanks for the info Conrad.

Feb 03, 2016 01:01 AM
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That is so true.  California and New York are just that different.  A

Feb 03, 2016 12:54 AM
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It doesn't mean much in NYC/Westchester either.

But, the real q is the median.

Feb 03, 2016 02:08 AM
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Conrad - I guess for an average, that is pretty good.

However, like you said, I don't think you could get much in San Francisco or New York for $115,000.

Feb 05, 2016 12:51 PM
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That's interesting Conrad, thanks for sharing.

Feb 04, 2016 05:43 AM
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Average means little if you live in an area like San Francisco, Manhattan or downtown Chicago!

Feb 03, 2016 09:06 PM
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 Good morning Conrad. I wondered 115,000 in Frisco is equivalent to 53,000 elsewhere.

Feb 03, 2016 05:25 PM
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Interesting...and how much of that goes to taxes

Feb 03, 2016 12:11 PM
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To get an average like this they must be including those who do not have jobs too.

Feb 03, 2016 10:10 AM
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Average doesn't mean much in real estate since all real estate is local.  Even the average price of a home in a neighborhood is meaningless due to age, size, community, mello roos, schools, traffic, view.  Same with income.  Some people feel wealthy making $30,000 while others feel poor with $500,000,000 ie the owner of the Oakland Raiders.

Feb 03, 2016 06:23 AM
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To me $115,000 in SF is pretty close to poverty.

Feb 03, 2016 05:44 AM
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That actually seems kind of high to me, Conrad.  I'll wager the median is much less.

Feb 03, 2016 05:27 AM
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The statisticians come up with all types of interesting information.

Feb 03, 2016 04:58 AM
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Very tough to live on that amount in the high dollar cities.

Feb 03, 2016 04:25 AM
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Or in Los Angeles area, as well. In SoCAl we also have income, property, and bunch of other taxes...

Feb 03, 2016 04:17 AM
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I don't like national averages of anykind...They mean absolutely nothing

Feb 03, 2016 03:24 AM
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I have always wondered if the average includes the unemployed? To me, those in the service, etc. should be included also.

I suspect that the average is only those working in private sector jobs, and perhaps non-miliatry gov.

Feb 03, 2016 03:19 AM
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If that is the average why do the politicians feel they are underpaid and need a raise!

Feb 03, 2016 02:57 AM
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The homeless make more than $53k in San Francisco I have been told Conrad.

Feb 03, 2016 02:54 AM
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Wow, $53K is the average?   I believe that is a little bit higher than here in Tucson, AZ.  I have had many clients tell me about the housing market in San Francisco.  In fact, under contract now with first time home buyers who decided to buy several homes here in Tucson as investment properties vs one run down house for $700K there. 

Feb 03, 2016 02:47 AM
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This is reported income, correct Conrad Allen ?

Feb 03, 2016 01:53 AM
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Nope I don't know but there are certainly regions where it's higher. Median may be more meaningful than a national average. The % of their income  people have to pay for housing varies  - I think it's especially high for Manhattan and San Francisco

Feb 03, 2016 01:29 AM
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I'm in the Bay Area. If you're bringing down just $115,000, you're going to have to sign up for food stamps...

Feb 03, 2016 01:05 AM
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Wow.  I wonder if they count the people making an unreported 50-100k/yr panhandling...

Feb 03, 2016 01:05 AM
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THAT'S why median is more valuable to me as a rule than average. Averaging can skew the results if the list is top- or bottom-heavy.
San Francisco average HH is 105k and median is 77k. So they are not as screwed as we thought, just still screwed. LOL

Feb 03, 2016 01:00 AM
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Roy Kelley
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It could be difficult to live on the average income in our area.

Feb 03, 2016 12:59 AM
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Feb 03, 2016 12:56 AM