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       Back in the days of the dinosaurs.. when I started selling real estate .. people looked at buying a house a bit differently. First there were not 57 different varieties of loans.  You went for a fixed or an adjustable.  The adjustable was pretty simple.. it moved up or down, was tied to a fairly stable index and no negative amortization. Oh.. and you had to qualify for the loan.  Most people chose the fixed rate loan because they wanted to know what their payment would be over the long term. 

If you hadn't saved much money or been a bit too free with those pesky credit cards then you took some personal responsibility.  I can't tell you how many people came in who wanted to buy but had to wait 6-24 months while they saved a little more toward a down payment or paid down the credit card balances.  No one got upset because they knew they hadn't been as responsible as they should have been.  They knew that if they really wanted to buy a home they needed to get serious about savings and debt. They were willing to start with a home they could afford and work their way up to the home of their dreams.

Many of today's  buyers expect to buy the home their parents finally ended up owning. They expect to get that home even if they have not saved any money or spent above their income and have heavy credit card debt. Often they are making a lot of money but are spending more then they make on expensive toys, fabulous trips and a rather extravagant lifestyle.  Others just don't earn enough to be able to purchase the home they want and often don't want the home they can afford.

With the advent of multiple choice loan programs suddenly everyone could buy a house.  Savings or credit  scores didn't matter. You want it.. you got it.. became the order of the day.  People who couldn't and shouldn't have been able to qualify for a loan found themselves proud homeowners for about six months until someone lost a job or a child got ill or  there was a divorce. Life got in the way of plans and we now have lots of foreclosures in many parts of the country.  It's easy to blame the lenders or the agents or the economy.  But the fact is that people have changed the way they view homeownership.  It's not something you earn.. it's a right.

We don't value saving or deferred consumption anymore.   We don't hold people responsible for their actions.  If you buy a home you can't afford and don't cut back on non-essential spending so you can make your payments... its the lenders fault or the fault of the agent but it's never my fault.  No one ever sits down and says... Maybe I shouldn't have gotten that loan.  The payments were always more then I could make.  I need to be more responsible... my house really isn't an ATM machine with free flowing cash..   I don't need a new car.. mine is good for a few more years. Would love to see Italy someday, but maybe we'll just stay home this year and save the money. New clothes.. I already have  a closet that is  full.. maybe I'll put off buying more until I pay off the credit cards.

Last September Brian Brady wrote about the  Habits of Millionaires.  It's a great post and includes some very wise ideas and perhaps some habits to emulate. No.. not everyone will or can become a millionaire but if you pick just one of the habits.. deferring immediate consumption.. you stand a better chance of reaching your financial goals and not winding up in foreclosure.  

 Monopoly is a game not a lifestyle... maybe it's time to recognize the difference. 

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15 Comments on Back to Basics... Maybe You Shouldn't Have that Loan...

You put my thoughts into words so eloquently.  I have said so many times about young people wanting the home their parents worked up to - but as their first home.  In fact, the majority of my sales last year were 100% financing with seller concessions.  Most were my listings so I doubt I'll find out what happened to some of these buyers.

04/11/2007 12:41 AM by Judy Orr (Classic Realty Group)


Amen sister!  People are blaming so many of the foreclosures on mortgage brokers.  I hate it when those shady guys give us good guys a bad name.  Sadly, when I tell someone that they really aren't qualified, they will shop around and sure enough somebody will reel them in and sell them an interest only 3 yr ARM.  Oh its OK, with appreciation the way it is, you can refinance in a few years....everybody's doing it! 

And now look at the results....

At least I sleep with a clean conscience at night!  :-)

04/11/2007 12:58 AM by Tony D. Howell (The best place EVER!)


Kaye,

We have become the antithesis of what our grandparents thought smart... Instant gratification, no personal responsibility, and American Idol is more important than the latest government shenanigans...

 

04/11/2007 01:02 AM by Patrick Harfst, CRS (Realty Executives)


Judy-I'm surprised at the number of buyers who don't have any down at all and in addition need help from the seller... in my area most buyers have at least 5-10% down and closing costs..  Guess we are spoiled

Tony-No question that shady brokers need to take responsibility for their actions.. if more buyers would understand that it is to their benefit to get their financial house in order before purchasing there would be a lot fewer sad consumers. Nothing is better then a good nights sleep.. :)

Patrick-Yep.. we have certainly come a long way from the way our parents and grandparents viewed the world.. can't say I think it's for the better.. personal responsibility says a whole lot about character.. and some of need to decide whether we want to have some or be one..

04/11/2007 01:32 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


As my grandad had a habit of articulating, "If you don't have the cash, don't buy it". 

That included a home. Of course homes were priced a little more attractively those days.
Thanks for all the sage info, Kaye.— Bob

04/11/2007 08:08 AM by Robert Kissig


Kaye! where you been? I think your post pretty well sums it up..if you want a house, work hard on your credit and save some money. You know I make some pretty good money yet live in a very modest 65 year old house, drive a 9 year old expedition, watch a $99 wal mart tv and rarely shop for cloths and the such. But I do splurge on investing in real estate. I guess my priorities are a little different than some of the younger folk.

04/11/2007 08:09 AM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Bob-- Grandpa was right.. interestingly if you adjust for inflation you would likely find Grandpa's home wasn't much cheaper..

BB- Every now and then I decide to sell a little real estate... LOL..It seems to make sense doesn't it. that if you live a bit modestly you can sleep a little better at night knowing your home is secure..

04/11/2007 09:46 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Kaye don't you hate it when work interferes with blogging? There must be a better way.

04/12/2007 07:51 AM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Bryant- I've decided that in my next life I'm going to be independently wealthy so I can blog as much as I want..this work stuff just interfers way too much..  ;)

04/12/2007 09:47 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


Many of today's  buyers expect to buy the home their parents finally ended up owning

the problem defined

deferring immediate consumption

A simple answer

Kaye, you are too young but I remember hearing the stories from uncles and grandparents about NOT buying a television so you could save up for a downpayment .  Today, the mortgage broker gives you a plasma TV with every 100% loan 

 

04/14/2007 12:37 AM by America's #1 Mortgage Broker


Brian- You are so kind... I hate to admit it but I'm not too young.. People saved until they could afford things... my parents never bought anything they couldn't pay for up front.. if they saved for a year that was what they did..

04/14/2007 01:00 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


K,my sentiments exactly! This is a very disposable generation and unfortunately it seems there is no thought to consequences. I want it now, I want the best...Remember, when you moved up and then moved up and then moved up...now the steps in-between have been removed. It's hard to appreciate anything if you don't spend the time to acquire it.

I'd best stop...I do get worked up on this subject. You did a great job with this article.

04/16/2007 01:32 AM by Sacramento Real Estate and Luxury Homes, Assoc. Real Estate Broker,Gena Riede (Remax Gold, Assoc Broker)


Gena- Thank you for your kind words.. I think they will figure things out but it will be a hard lesson to learn..

04/16/2007 11:22 AM by Manhattan Beach CA/ e-PRO..... Kaye Thomas... (Real Estate West)


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