User87645_1_t Terry Kuehn ~ Self-Directed Roth IRA Associate
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Because of the legality and complexity of contract law, it is my opinion that short sale proponents need to get a grip on reality.

By now, I feel that I can safely assume that almost every real estate agent in this country has had at least one personal experience with a short sale scenario. But, not knowing that to be an actual fact, I will simply state that at least I have. And it is because of that personal experience that I feel I can justly and constructively critique the process and can truthfully assess a paradoxical anomaly.

Simply put, "the mortgage company" that most agents wind up working with in attempting to consummate a short sale transaction are merely mortgage service companies ---- pencil pushers receiving payments, making entries on ledger forms, depositing funds in trust accounts, making payments for the ‘owner' and then forwarding all this information to investment banks who are, simultaneously, passing on all that information to the holders of investment pools.

In other words, it would be like you going up to a janitor of a building and making a purchase offer on the building that he or she is working on, when in reality the building is simply under a rental management contract with Joe Smow Realty who is managing the building for the three guys who own the place with one of them living in the Alaskan bush and one of them living in South Africa and the other one being a fisherman who was on a boat somewhere down in Antarctic waters and who has just been washed overboard and his wife lives in some small town in Greece and they have two children, one of which is on vacation in Switzerland and the other one is in school somewhere in Memphis.

The janitor cannot help you.

One thing that I feel is relevant to the current environment is this: Washington State is a wonderful place to live when it comes to consumer laws and consumer protection. Consequently, one might assume that there is now a law on the books relating to distressed homeowners. Well, that's true (and maybe the same holds true in other states) and that new law provides for very specific things having to happen if there is even a remote chance that a property might become financially "distressed." And from a legal standpoint, as an agent, because of that law, I prefer to no longer even want to think about attempting to get involved in a short sale transaction.

The way I see it, an agent has two strikes against him when he walks up to the plate to play in the short sale game. And the third strike often comes swiftly once the owner of the property begins to throw in the towel because he or she is slowly realizing that snowballs don't last long in warm country.

However inpassionate this article might appear to be, it is just one more article that can be referenced when it comes to short sale scenarios in the light of reality.

 
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8 Comments on An experienced take on short sales

Terry,

We just closed 2 days ago a short sale transaction. It took a long time, but besides the intial document preparation, we did not do anything. We forwarded it to the Short Sales attorney, they negotiated the whole thing, and when difficulties started happening, and we started choking, they helped to straighten the situation, and were able to bring it to closing.

Would we be able to close if we were negitiating ourselves? The answer is "no". I do plan on doing it, as our clients need it and we can do it, as we learned the system and how to navigate it, and we have the attorney helping us so that.

08/23/2008 05:33 PM by Jon Zolsky (FunCoast Realty LLC)


Plenty of Janitors got jobs with these banks. . . I speak to a few of them everyday.

 

08/23/2008 05:44 PM by Fernando Herboso Real Estate Maryland, DC and Virginia (Choice Real Estate )


Terry ~ We have several short sales attorneys here in south Florida that are doing a great job in getting these deals closed for the good of the clients involved. I believe the short sale process will improve in the next coming months, it had better because we surely will have many more bank owned properties coming on the market.

08/23/2008 06:01 PM by Nicholas Goglucci, CRS ~ CLHMS, e-PRO ~ Re/Max Professional in South Florida (RE/Max In Motion, Inc.)


Karen, the nightmares than pop from such situations are often sickening, and anybody with an ounce of feeling will validate that comment. Regardless of the situations that might have put an owner in the short sale arena, it is totally disheartening to sit and watch the social deterioration that occurs because of it, knowing that fate is getting ready to deal deuces to an already disenfranchised couple or individual.......

Jon, "the short sale attorney" in all the cases I am aware of is more NOT available than is available. To your situation, I will simply state that I consider your situation to be one of a few that might just have been the right one at the right time. For myself, I worked on one for just shy of six months and continued to receive total run-around..... As to any lost commissions on that transaction, I could give a rat's butt less because it is not a matter of money that controls my actions when it comes to my involvement with a client. And then along comes Washington's new real estate statute being passed and signed into law. One thing that I most cognizant of, and that is that I will not jeopardize my license or my sense of fiduciary duty to anybody if there is even that slightest chance that some third party along the way will enter the situation and muff things up. However sympathetic I may be to mankind, Washington is a very strong and stringent state when it comes to license law.......

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I just noticed Fernando's and Nicholas' comments....... I will respond......

08/23/2008 06:08 PM by Terry Kuehn ~ Self-Directed Roth IRA Associate (Family Real Estate Services, Inc.)


Fernando, I am attempting to mull what you might mean by your comment, but I can't quite figure what it might be that you are putting across. Possibly you are referring to maybe having insider knowledge. If this is the case, then more power to you; but in that scenario the average agent will be disadvantaged in attempting to work with the average short sale owner. Possibly you are referring to transactions that are not at arms-length.

Nicholas, with Florida and California being the prevalent states where foreclosures and short sales are probably taking place, I can believe that some of the necessary mechanics might be in place whereby short sales attorneys have been able to get a grip on formalities and logistics and are in a position to render REAL assistance and kick butt. Here in Washington, although there is a rising amount of this going on, I believe that we are still somewhat in our short sale infancy. Hopefully, you are right in that you believe the short sale process will improve.........

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I really appreciate these comments.........

Thank you very much........

08/23/2008 06:31 PM by Terry Kuehn ~ Self-Directed Roth IRA Associate (Family Real Estate Services, Inc.)


I like the analogy.  It helps one understand why things take so long.

Thanks for the post.  I liked it a lot so I reblogged it on my blog "Just Real Estate".

08/24/2008 08:42 AM by Tim Maitski~editor of MaitskiREport.com (HomeAtlanta.com)


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