I looked at their stuff last year, seemed to be a lot of promises for not much guarenteed besides buying more of their stuff. A lot of people did really well with a system in the build up days over the last few years..

I would like to know how thier numbers are working now...Let me know

Mike,

I find your comment interesting.  I can't name anyone in our vicinity who can point to recent results from the system. 

Our business has changed significantly in 2008 with REO properties becoming a major part of our inventory.

Thanks,

Ray

Total rip off of Russell Shaw, Craig Proctor.  He doesnt even sell real estate he's a mortgage broker. I also heard that he is being sued in another state for fraud. 

Can I get some details from you regarding the fraud?

Thanks,

Ray

Ocean West v. Wilhems & Wilhems v. Ocean West: On April 11, 2002, Ocean
West filed a complaint against Jeffery A. Wilhems, Marsee L. Wilhems and
Progressive Home Loans (collectively referred to as "Wilhems") in the Orange
County Superior Court, Central Justice Center, in Santa Ana, California for
breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, fraud and deceit, and injunctive
relief. J. Wilhems was the branch manager for Ocean West's Indiana branch. In
his capacity as the branch manager for Ocean West, J. Wilhems was to oversee the
mortgage loan production of said branch. Wilhems caused Ocean West an estimated
$1.3 million in losses due to the early payment default loans and misrepresented
material facts discovered. In addition, Wilhems entered into an employment
contract with an Ocean West competitor during his employment with Ocean West, a
breach of the branch manager agreement executed on September 1, 1999. J. Wilhems
filed a cross-complaint alleging breach of contract, fraud, negligent
misrepresentation and intentional interference with prospective economic
advantage, accounting and injunctive relief. Ocean West filed a demurrer and
prevailed on some of the causes of action. Ocean West and Wilhems completed
their first set of discovery. Both parties are willing to mediate for a
settlement. No mediation date has been scheduled.

 Enterprise Investment v. Jeffery Wilhems & Ocean West: On April 12, 2002,
Enterprise Investment filed a complaint against Jeffery Wilhems and Ocean West
in Marion County, Indiana for breach of contract on two commercial leases. J.
Wilhems entered into a contract without obtaining prior consent from Ocean West
Enterprises and its officers. In accordance with the executed branch manager
agreement between J. Wilhems and Ocean West Enterprises dated September 1, 1999,
J. Wilhems did not have the authority or capacity to enter into said commercial
lease on behalf of Ocean West Enterprises. Only officers of Ocean West are
allowed to enter into an oral or written contract on behalf of Ocean West.
Plaintiff mitigated its damages on the larger lease. Plaintiff has orally
informed Ocean West's counsel that Ocean West will be dismissed from this action
after the admission from defendant Jeffery Wilhems.

WoW... Sounds like you have a great system in place... Interested in sharing ideas ?

Everything about how Jeff and Marsee developed their business can be found right here in Jeffs own words.

http://lifestylemedia.videolsm.com/screeners/018/

Everything about how Jeff and Marsee developed their business can be found right here in Jeffs own words.

http://lifestylemedia.videolsm.com/screeners/018/