User12760_2_t Mike Jaquish Keller Williams Realty, Cary, NC
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You read it right.  Belly-crawling it was.

We've toured the home twice, and my clients want to know what the potable water supply piping system is.

In this area, built in 1995, that is quite likely to be polybutylene, with copper risers, a common method with local tract builders in the 1990's in Wake County, NC.

The North Carolina Property Disclosure form is marked for copper and plastic.  Hmmmm...  I called the Listing Agent who called her clients.  She then told me, "Mike, he should have marked "No Representation."  He really isn't sure about the main system.  He thinks it MIGHT be polybutylene."

All we can find is copper, including at the water heater.  And the crawlspace door is about 12 feet back in under the deck, which is about 24 inches above the ground level.   And we are dressed too nice to crawl. 

So we decided to return tonight for a crawl.  We found the polybutylene as soon as the door was opened, and that was settled.  But once I get that dirty, I want to make it worthwhile, so we crawled the entire crawlspace.  Not much of interest.  That's OK.  Boring is good under a house.  Some wood repair where water had entered behind the deck ledger, and to my eye a decent repair.  I told my client, "If you want this house, I'll have the inspector all over this with a fine tooth comb."

So, why are we doing this?  I'm no Home Inspector.  I could have said, "That's not my job."  Some people think I should have.

What we did tonight was get a quick sketch of the general conditions of the crawlspace.  My clients know there is polybutylene piping, with copper fittings.  And they know there is a little dampness and a ground vapor barrier is probably a good idea.

And I feel comfortable if they want to make an offer, that I have done a complete look at the property, and I'm at peace that we went to the effort to detect any easy deal-breakers.  And we gained that knowledge before they entered into a contract, and without them paying an inspector $400 to tell them they had polybutylene and needed a ground vapor barrier.

If they decide to accept a home with polybutylene piping, they want to know up front.  No surprises.

Full-service Real Estate Agency?  Sure.  Any pretty boy can walk a finished basement.  My client was delighted with a crawlspace tour.

 

7 Comments on Cary, NC Real Estate Adventures: Full-Service Agent crawls under House. Buyer Client follows. What fun!!

Mike, crawling in crawl spaces is something I don't have to worry about in our area, as we don't have any.  Almost everything is on a slab.  The only time there is a crawl space would be a mobile home.  No basements here unless you want to swim in them.

I agree with what you did.  When I look at homes with my clients I am always looking for signs of anything funny; like cracks that go all the way up through the brick.  If something looks fishy I can at least point it out then it is up to my clients to decide if they want to make an offer.  I always figure I can find another house with less problems.

12/03/2007 09:27 PM by Marchel Peterson Spring TX Real Estate E-Pro ABR (Results Realty)


Hi, Marchel.

I have another client, whom I emailed and told her I would NEVER crawl under her new home.

It is on a slab...

LOL

12/03/2007 09:29 PM by Mike Jaquish Keller Williams Realty, Cary, NC (Keller Williams Realty)


We had a similar issue with a house in this area.  We would be glad to CRAWL with them! (you)  Had a VA recently where I moved WOOD off the back porch to get the deal closed.. Do what you must do!

Love these spam words... this one is LEMON!!!

12/03/2007 09:59 PM by Eleanor Thorne, Cary Mortgage Loans (Meridian Residential)


Mike you did correct in my eyes. If my client wants to know then they are coming with me. i will not go alone. If they want to know then take them. I do know other agents out there that would not go under period.

12/03/2007 10:23 PM by Susan Trombley Re/Max Broker Raleigh NC & Surrounding Areas (Re/Max Hometown)


There was a day way back when I realized I should probably have overalls in my car...this reminds me of that day. You're a brave AND conscientious man!

12/04/2007 03:44 AM by Kris Wales-Macomb County MI real estate -Ask me about buyers agency in Michigan (RE/MAX Advantage 1, Inc.)


Eleanor,

"Do what you must do!"  Precisely!

Susan,

Kudos to you for being aggressive too. 

Kris,

To quote the boys from Wayne's World:  "I'm not worthy..."

Thanks!

12/04/2007 05:17 AM by Mike Jaquish Keller Williams Realty, Cary, NC (Keller Williams Realty)


I think you did the right thing as well.  What's the point in paying $400 for a home inspection to reveal something you could discover fairly easily? 

12/04/2007 05:29 AM by Fairbanks Ak Real Estate Broker Jesse Clifton (Jesse & Kathy Clifton, REALTORS 907-699-6024)


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