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I've noticed some changes to gasoline pumps over the past few weeks.Last week I filled my trucks gas tank at the White Lake Meijer gas station, located off Highland Rd in western Oakland County. The pump stopped at $75.00, and I assumed the tank was full. Today, I learned that credit companies are limiting purchases at the pump to $50.00 to $75.00 depending upon the card to decrease merchant and consumer liability for credit card fraud.

At a Marathon station in Dearborn Heights, before my credit card was approved, I had to enter the credit cards zip code. I'm assuming this is another measure being implemented to decrease credit card fraud.

In today's Detroit News, there were several articles and some great local information on gasoline stations. First, there was an article by Eric Morath  Wrangling renegade gas pumps which detailed efforts by the State of Michigan to increase inspection of service stations to prevent tampering of pumps. If you remember, several companies were accused of installing Tampering Devices in their pumps in 2005.

View stations recently checked and their records, including the number of pumps condemned, meter violations and if it was for too much or too little gas.

Are you cheating yourself at the pump?  In another related article, also written by Eric entitled State Checks Turn Up Trends it was reported that pumping gas at full speed (squeezing the handle tightly) actually resulted, in some cases, in the consumer receiving less gas. This was a real Homer Simpson -"DOH" moment for me, knowing that flow measuring devices are most accurate within 40 to 70 percent of rated flow with other fluids. The article above contains several other suggestions on getting your money's worth at the pump.

Before visiting any gas station, I suggest reading Michigan Gas Prices, How Far Will They Go? and visiting one of the websites to find the least expensive gas in your area. Remember, for those ozone action days. It's best to mow your lawn or fill up your tank another day. If that's not possible, please mow or fill tanks in the evening when it's cooler to decrease volatile organic compound emissions which contribute to smog.

Edited June 19, 2007  Based upon an article in Todays Detroit Free Press On Hot Days Gas Worth Less which reports pumps are calibrated to deliver gas at 60 degrees Fahrenheit. Gas pumped above that temperature expands delivering fewer gallons. Why should you further cheat yourself at the pump. I strongly suggest not fueling your vehicle on any hot day.

July 13, 2007: The other day, I saw someone getting gas for his mower while filling his tank. From the other two pump hoses he was able to get a quart of gas by dropping the hose to the gas can on the ground. Make sure you get your last pint of gas!

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22 Comments on Are You Cheating Yourself At The Gas Pump? (Updated July 13, 2007)

Hey Gary, Partner Paul said the heat of the day may make you get less gas also, don't know if this is true, Good info, Pam

06/18/2007 01:46 PM by Pam Hofmann - Your Crossville, Lake Tansi & Fairfield Glade Specialist (Third Tennessee Realty & Associates, LLC)


Pam, I've heard that also, although I couldn't find any articles.

06/18/2007 01:49 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Good post Gary.  Yes, I've read several articles about saving gas, and yes you should fill up in the morning when the pumps are cool and so is your tank.  When both or either are hot, the gas expands in the tank and takes up more room, so when it looks like you are filled to the brim, there otherwise would be room for more.  The gas from the pump also expands, so as you pump it registers less actual gas than you are getting.

Terry Haugen - STAGE it RIGHT!

06/18/2007 03:18 PM by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!)


Terry,  thanks. I guess I'll have to research this.

06/18/2007 04:13 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


That's news to me, Gary.  I'll have to ask around here.  Luckily my truck typically tops off around $55!  Wait, is that lucky or unlucky...

06/18/2007 04:45 PM by Jeff Geoghan MBA - Lancaster PA Real Estate Expert (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals)


Jeff,  I would say you're lucky. When I purchased mine, a tank was less than $20.00, except July 4th weekend. Hybrid when it's paid off.

06/18/2007 06:18 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Terry, there was an article in todays paper explaining why less gas is delived to consumers during hot weather. Seems gas pumps are calibrated to deliver gas at 60 degrees F. If the temperature is higher, less fuel is pumped. Thanks for making me look

06/19/2007 09:47 AM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


My Visa stopped at $50

My mastercard is supposed to stop at $75. Thankfully I haven't hit that bump stop yet. LOL

06/19/2007 09:50 AM by Tom Burris | FHA VA & Conv. Texas Mortgage Loans (DallasLoanGuy.com)


Tom, I'm sure it will only get worse. I remember when gas jumped to $2.00 a gallon. At that time, you could only put $35.00 on a credit card. Soon the limit will be $100.00

06/19/2007 09:59 AM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


That's an interesting point, Gary, about the temp change.  I imagine the gas is not a dense at a higher temp so there's less volume pumped for a given meter reading?

06/19/2007 11:31 AM by Jeff Geoghan MBA - Lancaster PA Real Estate Expert (Coldwell Banker Select Professionals)


Jeff, i'm still not sure, just going from the article. Since any gas or liquid cools when going from a high to a low pressure, the loss in your tank, may not be as great as the article implies. The loss of delivery by the pump might even be greater where the ground temperature is higher.

06/19/2007 11:57 AM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Gary

I've noticed the stickers on the pumps limiting credit card purchases for a while.

I was a the Meijer at 13 and Little Mack in Roseville yesterday, gas was 2.92, across the street at the Speedway it was 3.29 and believe it or not there were people at the pump. 

Great post, I will start using your suggestions.

06/19/2007 12:51 PM by Terry Lynch (GMAC The Kee Group)


Thanks for the post.  Like Terry, I'd also heard that pumping in the morning is slightly better as the fuel's density is greater the colder it is.

 John Slocum

06/19/2007 02:47 PM by Alexander-Slocum REMAX Real Estate Team - Vancouver WA Homes (RE/MAX equity group, inc. - Vancouver Washington)


Terry - Yeah price just went from $2.96 to $3.25 at some stations here. Glad I filled up in anticipation of upcoming holiday.

Alexander - Terry reported the same article in Florida this morning. I give her credit for being correct.

06/19/2007 03:28 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Very interesting, Gary.  Maybe this is one advantage to living in the cold Michigan climate!  :-)

06/19/2007 04:36 PM by Buyer's Broker of Northern Michigan, LLC


Stefan,  In one of the articles Canadian dealers were in favor of calibrating pumps by temperature. They were loosing money dispensing too much fuel.

My feeling is I'm purchasing a gallon of fuel. That's what should be dispensed. 

06/19/2007 05:29 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Thanks Gary, I need all the help I can get with my Yukon. I get so frustrated, that I just tell myself that I just won't drive anywhere after my $75.00 is used up for the week.

06/20/2007 09:30 AM by James Iodice - Commercial Real Estate Michigan (Skyline Property Group, Inc.)


James,  Most work is now from home, no showings during rush hour.  truck is definately going when it's paid off.

Just looked at the price ranges in Michigan 2.72 to 3.59 a gallon for regular. And people wonder why consumers shout gouging

http://michigangasprices.com/

 

06/20/2007 09:47 AM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


 

I am kicking myself for not filling up when it was down below 2.70 last week. The speedway out by us on 59 was having a "sale". Now most are up at 3.25.

06/20/2007 11:01 AM by James Iodice - Commercial Real Estate Michigan (Skyline Property Group, Inc.)


James, seriously wonder how they price fuel in Michigan after looking a fuel temperature map.

06/20/2007 12:04 PM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


Another way to save is to get gas when it is cold. You actually save about .09 a gallon if you get gas when it is 50 degrees out vs it being 80 degrees out. Gas expands when it is hot and you get less at the pump for your money.

06/28/2007 12:14 AM by Todd Clark (Realtor), GRI (Your Washington Co. Real Estate Expert) (Kastings & Associates)


Todd,  Thanks, I've been trying to decrease driving during summer months after reading these articles and comments.

06/28/2007 07:18 AM by Gary Smith, Realtor® (RE/MAX Platinum)


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